So are we going to do anything productive or not?

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So are we going to do anything productive or not?

Post  bigmclargehuge on Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:46 pm

When this forum was started, I had hopes of some action being taken. So far all I've really seen was plans for a religion (sadly this is our main topic.. nothing constructive just a nice idea) and I think we should be spending the time we spent on that for something more supportive and useful to the whole pirate community. A religion is an interesting idea, but they don't get set up in a few days/weeks or even months.

What we should be focusing on is more easily available ways for people to get active and fight the ACTA. I propose that we convert the Agreement into words that anyone with simple English could understand (and if anyone is interested.. other language translations) this will make our message ALOT easier to spread and help recruit people.

That's another point I'd like to make. Perhaps instead of trying to be our own party, we should instead support other people who have already started a movement. this ACTA business isn't new you know; There was an earlier leak this year (January I think) of a meeting (and a leak last year too) and there are a few pirate parties already set up (sadly these pretty much pertain to individual countries, like Canada or Sweden). This doesn't mean that you can't get the word out to people in those countries however! We should be doing our hardest to get people informed!

I've used this analogy before, but I think it sums this up well; Rather then group into small factions with alot of holes in them (like a chain fence) we should be grouping everyone in one giant party (like a brick wall). I'd wager about 1/2 - 3/4's of the world's population pirates. So for us to make any changes, we should be united in one group and to do THAT we need to give people knowledge of this agreement!

So I'm thinking that this forum should be more about getting the information out then about a religion we have barely thought through. Let's change from being a new super religion, to something more logical and useful.

This is a somewhat simplified version of the Agreement (however i believe this is the one that leaked in January) http://en.swpat.org/wiki/201001_acta.pdf_as_text

It's still confusing unless your a pretty verbose person.. but it's far better then the actual agreement lol.
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Post  calvorin on Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:39 pm

Well, for my part, I'm attending two Tea Party rallies this month. I've been part of the movement from the beginning, and our goals mesh perfectly. A small, strictly limited government, which is the core of what the Tea Party wants, could not possibly enforce something like ACTA.

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Post  calvorin on Sun Apr 04, 2010 2:42 pm

Oh, and I've also started work on a novel that glorifies the Pirate Bay and surrounding community, presenting us as peaceful lovers of freedom. But that's a long term project. Got the initial scene, but now focusing on the plot framework and outline before moving on.

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Post  bigmclargehuge on Mon Apr 12, 2010 5:48 am

I'm pretty disappointed that I've only gotten 24 views on this thread since I put it up.. did the forums die out already? No one cares about doing anything except Calvorin? Come on people we need to get active! Lets bring the forums back to life and have a new goal! We need to plan and act, otherwise why bother using p2p anymore? We will have let it die without a fight.
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Re: So are we going to do anything productive or not?

Post  keirani on Mon Apr 12, 2010 10:29 am

ah! finally a topic I can post to. ^^~


I've been thinking and feeling the same thing for a while, considering this whole thing completely under the table we should be out there firstly enforcing our rights as citizens to have things we sign into, known on a country wide scale. (for those country's who are participating in it)
I'm unsure as to how we could go about having that issue brought up, and having them translated into regular basic basic English. before this was leaked online I had no idea that it was even happening. then I searched, and yep they posted a tiny blip of it on Canada's website to cover their asses saying it was 'public knowledge'.

I'm assuming the only way to deal with any of this is through direct action. like layer and suite and people working together to push this whole thing public.

o.o But that's going to require a lot of participation.


we could start protests, Facebook group informing on all the things happening. to inform the general public. As much as I personally dislike Facebook it seems to be the best way to get things across. Unfortunately as many people don't really care to do , write a letter to your senator, or local MP in regards to how you are concerned with the issue. (maybe even get a template up) Also.. another thing that's usually good to show support is a petition. People are more then likely not going to want to sign with their name. considering it could be turned into a "watch list" if this whole act passes Honestly though, if I had to I'd be willing to take the risk now and do something, to protect our internets freedom.

I think if more people knew they wouldn't be too happy about it.

we get closer and closer to an internet that is under compleate control. Youtube already has country ban's for video's. I can't watch certain music video's just because I live in Canada?!

thank you Sony... bastards.



just because I download doesn't mean I don't support where support is needed.
If I like an album ill go buy it.
If its a movie that has a good review, I go watch it in theaters. I've rarely buy em, I've always rented..
and Tell me now, but How many times do company's expect us to pay for the same crap!?
If I bought a Disney movie on VHS back when I was a kid, and then later I bought it on DVD, then now I go buy it on Blue ray.. I just payed for the same thing 3 times!
compression costs' the full price of a movie ???

Know your rights, know when your being screwed..

We can't let them screw us on the internet.
the people are the one's who made the internet what it is today,
So its the people who should have full say in how the governments, and major corporations decide to play the game "law" and control us.
But I say, and know the people are stronger.

and as the old saying goes:
Do what you want cus a pirate is free!
You are a pirate!

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Post  stephend330 on Wed Apr 21, 2010 1:42 am

i think we need to cum up with an action list with goals to be achive buy all of us as one
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